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		<title>InVista &#8211; EMC&#8217;s Problem Child</title>
		<link>http://thestoragearchitect.com/2008/09/24/invista-emcs-problem-child/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Remember when EMC offered a fabric-based storage virtualisation product called InVista? Apparently they still do, as a customer of mine mentioned recently. Unfortunately they had trouble getting any sort of decent reference site for the product and weren&#8217;t that impressed.</p> <p>I had a quick check on EMC&#8217;s site and the last press release for the [...]<!--Begin ClixTrac.com Rotator Code -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when EMC offered a fabric-based storage virtualisation product called InVista?  Apparently they still do, as a customer of mine mentioned recently.  Unfortunately they had trouble getting any sort of decent reference site for the product and weren&#8217;t that impressed.</p>
<p>I had a quick check on EMC&#8217;s site and the last press release for the product I could find was dated <a href="http://uk.emc.com/about/news/press/uk/2007/12082007.htm" >December 8th 2007</a>.  Compare that to the news about DMX, Clariion and probably almost every other product put out by EMC and InVista doesn&#8217;t get much press.  In fact general opinion perceives InVista as EMC&#8217;s problem child, finding trouble gaining acceptance with storage managers at large.  Why?</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m not sure why.  The *concept* of fabric-based virtualisation seems appealing and once the appliance has been integrated into a SAN, data migration should be simple.  Perhaps there&#8217;s a lack of trust in the scalability or performance, perhaps a lack of trust that the product actually works, perhaps a nervousness in placing yet another layer into the infrastructure which, if it fails, could be massively disruptive to normal storage operations.</p>
<p>That leads to the question &#8211; what should EMC do?  I doubt they will drop the product, as that will give competitors (especially IBM &amp; SVC) too much of a marketing opportunity.  Maybe they will acquire a competitor (like <a href="http://www.incipient.com/index.htm" >Incipient</a>) and slowly transform InVista into a new product.  I don&#8217;t have a crystal ball to answer that one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll close with one thought &#8211; are there any other products with the word &#8220;Vista&#8221; out there that are also equally dismissed and derided?
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		<title>I Stand Corrected</title>
		<link>http://thestoragearchitect.com/2008/01/12/i-stand-corrected/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2008/01/two-for-price-of-one.html" >previous post</a> earlier this year I mentioned the <a href="http://www.onaro.com/" >Onaro</a> purchase by <a href="http://www.netapp.com/" >Network Appliance</a>. As I said at the time, I wasn&#8217;t aware Onaro&#8217;s SANScreen product even had a NAS module. It seems I was wrong, and thanks for Deni O&#8217;Connor for <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/stor/2008/0107stor2.html?fsrc=rss-storage" >indirectly</a> pointing it [...]<!--Begin ClixTrac.com Rotator Code -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2008/01/two-for-price-of-one.html" >previous post</a> earlier this year I mentioned the <a href="http://www.onaro.com/" >Onaro</a> purchase by <a href="http://www.netapp.com/" >Network Appliance</a>.  As I said at the time, I wasn&#8217;t aware Onaro&#8217;s SANScreen product even had a NAS module.  It seems I was wrong, and thanks for Deni O&#8217;Connor for <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/stor/2008/0107stor2.html?fsrc=rss-storage" >indirectly</a> pointing it out.  In fact, SANScreen now has NAS Insight which provides for NAS monitoring support.  However this feature was only made general availability on 31 December 2007, so you can hopefully excuse my oversight for not realising it has been released.</p>
<p>(On a side note, why are large Enterprises such as Onaro still not using RSS to announce product releases?  I haven&#8217;t got the time or inclination to trawl their websites each day.  RSS is so much easier.)</p>
<p>I had a quick look at the NAS Insight press release and details on their website.  Although there&#8217;s a demo, I couldn&#8217;t ascertain what NAS products (other than Netapp filers which are in the demonstration) the product supports.  That makes me think it supports nothing BUT Netapp (although I again stand to be corrected).  If that&#8217;s true then NAS Insight is a pointless feature for many customers who would want to use the product for cross vendor consolidation and certainly doesn&#8217;t demonstrate Onaro&#8217;s NAS credentials.  Compared to the last release of DFM I saw, NAS Insight is pretty poor.</p>
<p>To date my SANScreen exposure has been based on one large &#8220;global installation&#8221; of the product and presentations from the Onaro marketing team.  When an instance of SANScreen was enabled in one location of the global deployment, it created thousands of exceptions which then required manual intervention.  When I last had a presentation on the product (in October) there was a large number of SAN scenarios SANScreen wasn&#8217;t reporting on, a lot of these relating to non-EMC and replication support.  There&#8217;s still a long way to go yet.</p>
<p>Up to this point, Onaro may have developed relationships with the vendors which provides for ongoing access to new releases of their management tools in order to extract configuration information.  Going forward, will those companies still be as keen to provide that information to Netapp, who may be their direct competitor in the NAS (and non-NAS) marketplace?
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		<title>SPC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>According to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning" >Wikipedia</a>, lightning can travel at a speed of 100,000 MPH, however I think storage vendors are even faster than lightning when it comes to highlighting or <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissing" >dissing</a> the competition.</p> <p>Mere microseconds after reading <a href="http://blogs.hds.com/claus/2007/10/the_olympics_of_storage.html#respond" >Claus Mikkelsen&#8217;s blog</a> on the USP-V SPC figures, there are posts from [...]<!--Begin ClixTrac.com Rotator Code -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning" >Wikipedia</a>, lightning can travel at a speed of 100,000 MPH, however I think storage vendors are even faster than lightning when it comes to highlighting or <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissing" >dissing</a> the competition.</p>
<p>Mere microseconds after reading <a href="http://blogs.hds.com/claus/2007/10/the_olympics_of_storage.html#respond" >Claus Mikkelsen&#8217;s blog</a> on the USP-V SPC figures, there are posts from <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/storagevirtualization?entry=so_i_guess_that_only" >BarryW</a> and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2007/10/0039-ibm-and-sp.html" >BarryB</a>, doing the highlighting and dissing respectively (I almost wrote respectfully there; that would have been a funny typo).  BarryB must have no real work to do other than to write his blog, looking at the size of the posts he does!</p>
<p>Anyway.  I&#8217;m not going to comment on the results because the others have done that enough already and I don&#8217;t think the details are that relevant.  I think what&#8217;s more relevant is the stance EMC are taking in not providing figures for customers on the performance of their equipment.  I can&#8217;t decide whether its a case of arrogance and therefore a feeling they don&#8217;t need to provide details because as BarryB says, the customer will buy anyway, or is it because the DMX will not match up to the performance of its competitors.  I think it is a mixture of both.</p>
<p>EMC aren&#8217;t an array vendor any more and haven&#8217;t been for a long time.  OK, it is the product they&#8217;re most remembered for historically, but their reach is now so wide and deep I think Symmetrix isn&#8217;t the focus of a lot of their attentions.  If it was, DMX4 would not just scale by the GB, it would have more connectivity, more cache and EMC would have been the *leader* in the implementation of technology like thin provisioning, not the also ran. </p>
<p>On reflection, I think EMC should provide SPC figures.  If DMX is better than the others and is &#8220;Simply the Best&#8221; prove it; bragging starts to sound hollow after a while.
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		<title>Using VTLs</title>
		<link>http://thestoragearchitect.com/2007/05/26/using-vtls/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 14:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The discussion on EMC&#8217;s VTL has got StorageZilla and other EMC&#8217;ers a little <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2007/05/like_rodney_dan.html" >excited</a>. It stems from Barry&#8217;s post on the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2007/05/worlds_largest_.html" >DL6000</a>, a Godzilla of a VTL as I&#8217;ve previously discussed <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2007/05/mines-bigger-than-yours-part-deux.html" >before</a>. </p> <p>I think it is worthwhile reviewing the exact point of having a VTL [...]<!--Begin ClixTrac.com Rotator Code -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion on EMC&#8217;s VTL has got StorageZilla and other EMC&#8217;ers a little <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2007/05/like_rodney_dan.html" >excited</a>.  It stems from Barry&#8217;s post on the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2007/05/worlds_largest_.html" >DL6000</a>, a Godzilla of a VTL as I&#8217;ve previously discussed <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2007/05/mines-bigger-than-yours-part-deux.html" >before</a>. </p>
<p>I think it is worthwhile reviewing the exact point of having a VTL in the first place.</p>
<p>Tape has issues and we all know it.  They break, wear out, develop errors and most importantly get lost, compromising their content and potentially leading to embarrassment and large fines for the companies involved.  Tape has the advantage that it is cheap, portable and (other than keeping it at the right temperature) costs a minimal amount to store.</p>
<p>Point 2; why do we do backups?  They&#8217;re done to recover from inadvertent data loss &#8211; logical corruption, user error, hardware failure and so on.  Depending on company size, it is possible that tape may be used in the DR process but for large companies, they will probably either run a second site or use a third party DR company.  It is likely that these companies will *not* rely on restoring from tape in the event of a complete site outage or disaster.  BC/DR processes for these companies will be ultimately more complex than calling back the tapes from Iron Mountain. </p>
<p>Backups have also become a method of archiving data in the absence of a proper tool for archiving.  Restoring data for archive purposes from backups depends on staff who have specific knowledge in order to know what to restore.  The format of backup data precludes the ability to easily search and index content and mine it for competitive purposes.  It might be *possible* but is it *practical* and can the effort justify the rewards gained from the data?  Unlikely.</p>
<p>VTLs have developed to answer some of the issues relating to tape, namely the failure rates of backups and the time to access to get data back on restores.  VTL&#8217;s do not answer the issues of tape loss &#8211; let&#8217;s face it, if you don&#8217;t send the tapes offsite, you can&#8217;t lose them.  VTLs *have* to be located offsite from the main data otherwise you are at risk so why not just put the tape library offsite instead?</p>
<p>There are plenty of other techniques available to ensure you don&#8217;t have to go running to backups for data recovery. Point-in-time copies, CDP, remote replication, snapshots, VSS all provide the ability to get data back and get it back quickly.  Tape never did that &#8211; why should we expect a VTL to do so?</p>
<p>Enterprise-scale customers will have multiple sites and already write data to a remote location, perhaps across IP or DWDM/dark fibre with fibre channel connections.  They will have tape libraries with automation in place and not need to ship tapes offsite.  Their issues with tape will revolve around getting backup successes to 100%, eliminating those failures which occur from faulty media and ensuring that when restores take place, then tape drives are available to enable as many restores to occur as possible.  VTLs enable that.  But I don&#8217;t believe VTLs should enable that at any price. </p>
<p>80-90% or more of data on tape is at rest.  Tape data expires and the tapes are reused in cycles.  Tape is effective because the 90% of inactive media can be put on a shelf and left alone.  If you are realistic, then you&#8217;d say even automated tape libraries are not effective and they should only contain perhaps only the last 6 months or so of backup data.  As tapes are cheap, multiple copies can be kept.  If one tape is damaged or fails, it doesn&#8217;t affect the content on the remaining tapes.</p>
<p>VTLs need to offer the same level of functionality:</p>
<ul>
<li>You want power consumption to be as low as possible.</li>
<li>You want TCO to be as low as possible.</li>
<li>You don&#8217;t want component failure to affect the whole archive.</li>
<li>You want granular access to your data to enable you to restore what you want when you want.</li>
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<p>My point in the previous post was that the Copan product has been designed to address these requirements.  It only powers up 25% of the disks because you never read and write from all your tapes at any one time &#8211; you couldn&#8217;t do it because you never had the drives available to mount the tapes!  Also, tape data is usually multiple copies of the same thing going back over months or years, so you would only restore the *last* copy in a DR situation, which is likely to be much less than 25% of the data on tape (or even a VTL).    A point worthy of note here; the Copan system doesn&#8217;t block access to data on drives that are powered down.  It simply powers down another drive and powers up the one needed to provide access to the data so all the user sees is a delay in access.</p>
<p>The Copan system writes data on shelves which are treated as individual virtual libraries.  Any one can be powered down individually to replace failed drives, so the whole system doesn&#8217;t have to be taken down.  That also helps to meet the issue of a hardware failure not affecting all the content.  Data is not spread across the whole system so is not all at risk if a shelf did fail.  The system also performs periodic data validation/drive scrubbing to ensure drives which are going to fail can be easily identified.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to end on one thought.  If I was implementing ILM, I would implement a strategy which puts the most valuable data on Enterprise arrays.  &#8220;Valuable&#8221; would mean both risk of losing and also risk of time to access; I&#8217;d want to access the data 24/7 and not lose it.  As data value reduces then it goes on to less expensive technology where the tradeoff of cost versus availability is met.  For instance, development data on modular storage.  Finally, backup data would sit on the least expensive hardware platform.  EMC are suggesting I keep that data on their most *expensive* platform!</p>
<p>Think of it this way &#8211; if you have a DMX3 already, why bother buying a DMX3 VTL solution?  Just shove some 500GB drives into your existing DMX3 and backup straight to disk &#8211; it will be exactly the same in terms of availability and reliability but without the VTL licence cost!</p>
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