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		<title>Enterprise Computing: 3Par Thin Enhancements</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris M Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.3par.com" >3Par</a> today took the opportunity at <a href="http://www.snwusa.com/" >SNW USA</a> to announce some enhancements to their thin provisioning technology.  The new features are:</p> Thin Conversion. Slims down &#8220;stout&#8221; storage volumes as they are moved to a thin environment. Thin Copy Reclamation. Reclaims unused space from snapshot or replicated volumes. Thin Reclamation for Veritas [...]<!--Begin ClixTrac.com Rotator Code -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.3par.com" >3Par</a> today took the opportunity at <a href="http://www.snwusa.com/" >SNW USA</a> to announce some enhancements to their thin provisioning technology.  The new features are:</p>
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<li><strong>Thin Conversion.</strong> Slims down &#8220;stout&#8221; storage volumes as they are moved to a thin environment.</li>
<li><strong>Thin Copy Reclamation</strong>. Reclaims unused space from snapshot or replicated volumes.</li>
<li><strong>Thin Reclamation for Veritas Storage Foundation.</strong> Integrates with VxVM to release deleted data from the array.</li>
<li><strong>Thin Persistence.</strong> Dynamically releases deleted data from active volumes.</li>
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<p>Now I thought InServ arrays already had this functionality but maybe I was jumping the gun when I mentioned thin support in recent posts.  However, that said, the ability to thin-on-the-fly is undoubtably a good one.  <strong>ZPR</strong> from Hitachi/HP requires the &#8220;offline&#8221; collection of freed blocks.</p>
<p>What interests me most is the detail around Thin Persistence.  The description in the  flyer for the feature makes the following claim:</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">&#8220;Thin Persistence achieves [the thinning of volumes] by using the built-in zero detection capability embedded in the 3Par Gen3 ASIC to reclaim unused space associated with deleted data within the InServ storage volumes&#8221;</span></p>
<p>Now correct me if I&#8217;m wrong but I thought most data deletions were done at a <strong>logical</strong> level, releasing only pointers in the appropriate file system tables.  If this is so, how does the system identify this space as reclaimable?  Is there a new &#8220;super-delete&#8221; facility that writes binary zeros over deleted files?  Alternatively I guess we could write a &#8220;block-scrubber&#8221; which allocates free space into a psuedo-file, writes zeros over it and releases it.  Of course the ultimate place for this kind of feature is the defragmenter.  As blocks are re-organised, overwrite free space with binary zeros the first time they are moved  That way the problem is solved.</p>
<p>Can anyone from 3Par shed light on my mis-understanding of the above?</p>
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